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For Reals?

Updated: Nov 12, 2023



Dr. Jill Stein announces her candidacy for the Green Party nomination for the presidential election in 2024


LIBERALS:

You are bought by Putin

You want Trump to win

You gave us Trump (times 10,000)

You just want money

You can never win

Your run is pointless

You’d do better to advocate for people

You’re wasting your time

You have no position on war/Palestine


My God...Democrats are fricking CRAZY. Dr. Stein has ALWAYS advocated for peace everywhere. If you don’t know this, you’ve not tried to find out. Regurgitating talking points is not proof of anything and is lazy and intellectually dishonest. I would be careful calling out politicians if I were you; your politicians have gotten us into not one but two wars through their own graft and that of their financiers. We are standing on the brink of WWIII, while your politicians call for more money to arm nations that are not the US, while our people languish in poverty, starve from lack of food, which has seen an incredible rise in price under your politicians, sleep on the streets from lack of housing, and struggle to pay back the student loan debt that they were told they needed in order to have a decent job, and that now takes up a gigantic part of their funds. And a huge chunk of that money your politicians want? Those are to go to helping the country who has free health care and the best, most well equipped defenses in their part of the globe while they are systematically wiping an entire population off the face of the earth. Nice policies your politicians put into action. Not even your most 'progressive' member of congress, "socialist" Bernie Sanders, will call for a ceasefire. The only one who did was censured by her colleagues for having the temerity to call for the cessation of the killing of her own people. You are all warmongering people with no sympathy for dead brown babies, and you never have had any (see Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen. Syria, Pakistan, Libya and Lebanon). But you lunatics did not hesitate to plaster pictures of the poor Ukrainian children while weeping crocodile tears. No, leftists are not immune to the suffering of children of any color, we just have a different way to stop it, and that way is to stop it, not ensure that it continues!


From her 2016 run:

“The Jill Stein campaign calls for ending support for governments committing war crimes and massive human rights violations, including Israel and Saudi Arabia.

With regard to Israel, the United States has encouraged the worst tendencies of the Israeli government as it pursues policies of occupation, apartheid, assassination, illegal settlements, demolitions, blockades, building of nuclear bombs, indefinite detention, collective punishment, and defiance of international law. Instead of allying with the courageous proponents of peace and human rights within Palestine and Israel, our government has rewarded consistent abusers of human rights.”

2016, people. She didn’t wait to have this position until it was all over the news and Israel had started their genocidal campaign in Gaza with the full support and complicity of YOUR politicians.


The proof that ‘she gave us Trump and wants him to win again’? The mere fact that the Democrats lost when running against her , Gary Johnson, and Trump. Your candidate was so horrible that she couldn’t even beat a buffoon like Trump, and it’s Dr. Stein’s fault? In the first place, Dr. Stein didn’t take any votes away from anyone. Those votes did not belong to Clinton; they belonged to the voters who cast them, and if Clinton could not make her case well enough to win them over, she did not deserve their votes.

She had nothing to offer the people who voted for Dr. Stein, whose platform offered the Green New Deal (hence the name, and yes, YOUR party 'appropriated' that from HER and the party in which she ran). Her plan was to move "from the greed and exploitation of corporate capitalism to a human-centered economy that puts people, planet and peace over profit." She supported abortion rights and the legalization of marijuana. She called for an end to unconstitutional surveillance, closing Guantanamo (which the president at the time from YOUR party promised to do but did not) abolishing secret kill lists and indefinite detention (again...looking at you, Democrats). She promoted the policy of health care being a human right and would have sought to implement a single-payer system (unlike the atrocious ACA with which YOUR party saddled us).

She wanted to "Establish a foreign policy based on diplomacy, international law, and human rights. End the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least 50% and close the 700+ foreign military bases that are turning our republic into a bankrupt empire. Stop U.S. support and arms sales to human rights abusers, and lead on global nuclear disarmament." She had a plan to forgive all student debt (unlike the sham of a 'forgiveness' policy from YOUR party that came nowhere near that goal).

"It's not only possible, it's essential. If we found a way to bail out the crooks on Wall Street who crashed the economy through waste, fraud and abuse, we can certainly find a way to help students who are some of the chief victims of that crash. We bailed out Wall Street to the tune of $17 trillion when you include the no-interest loans and the straight-up bailouts they received. The good news is that student debt is tiny by comparison: only $1.3 trillion."


In that election, Dr. Stein garnered 1.1% of the vote that year. Gary Johnson received 3.3% of the vote, much more than Dr. Stein did. But it was Dr. Stein who cost Hillary the election? Oh, I see, Johnson took votes away from TRUMP, so he doesn’t count. So, it’s ok for third parties to run and ‘take votes’ from your opposition candidate, but not for anyone to run on the policies YOUR candidate espouses but never delivers on. So, in short, no one should ever run to change the disaster the major parties have steeped our country in. What’s that you say? It would be okay if ‘this wasn’t the most important election of our lifetime’? When has it NOT been the most important election of our lifetime? This very same trope is trotted out every single election, and it always works. Your party doesn't even have to bother with a new strategy when you will fall for the old one again and again.


She just wants money? For reals? Evidently, you have zero idea that Green party candidates don’t take corporate money (unlike every single politician in the other three largest parties). There is no money to be made being a Green Party candidate (or Socialist or Communist parties, for that matter) They are diametrically opposed to that. You would know that if you bothered to take even a cursory glance at the Green platform.


Dr. Stein should put her energies elsewhere (such as election reform, as I read one of you say). What do you not understand about the fact that your politicians (and those of the GOP to be fair) make all campaign and election laws? Are you aware that not running a presidential candidate can kick a third party off the ballot in some states? No? Then you should research that. How about that same party having to have a certain number of members and sometimes signatures of registered members of that party in order to retain or achieve ballot access? You didn't know that either? I don't doubt it, and what's more, I don't think you even care. After all, there is no need for a third party if everyone is supposed to vote for the major parties, is there? In case you find yourself curious, here is a link for ballot access requirements.


Proof of being a Russian stooge? Sitting at the same table with Putin after a foreign policy forum. Not next to him, not talking to him, not smiling at him, not leaning in to hear him, but on the other side of the table. Do you not think that if there were pictures of her talking to him they would not be all over the internet? What? You say it doesn’t need context, all you need is the picture? Ok...let me help you out with even more intimate pictures:











































What? Those are not pictures of Dr. Stein? Oh, noooooos! Those are DEMOCRATS? But that's silly to compare them to Dr. Stein because there is a perfectly good explanation, look at the context!! Funny. I thought pictures needed no explanation or context...huh. It’s almost like you’re grasping at any straw to make Dr. Stein look dirty and politicians from YOUR party look squeaky clean. Imagine that. Face it. If your politician didn’t win/won’t win, it’s because they DIDN’T/WON’T win on their own merits. In fact, if Biden is your candidate this election season, he deserves to lose, and if you're honest with yourself, you already know why. And that is why you cry about Dr. Stein "taking his votes", recycling old pictures with comments about her horrible character which have no basis in reality (nor any other 'proof', not a report of what was said, not an valid reason she should be questioned, nothing), and all of the other BS liberals hurl at those who would never vote for the bloodthirsty, lying, grifters in your hellhole of a party. You do realize that you sound just like the GOP with your baseless accusations based on innuendo, right? The Democratic party has fallen even further and further towards fascism than they were before 2000. And you, liberal, are the reason. The truth is that if your politician can’t garner enough votes to win with all their advantages over a third party candidate, they don’t deserve to win, and all the out of context pictures and mudslinging won’t change that. Nor will it change the fact that your party is morally bankrupt. The saddest thing? You know how horrible your party is and all you can do to defend them is to say, "but....TRUMP!" So extremely sad for you and for us all because you will still vote for them regardless. Congrats, you have managed to normalize the election of murderers, liars and thieves.

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